about president obama's second term. you know, what are the top agenda items for the second term? it's immigration, it's gun control, it's winning the fiscal cliff battle, it's climate change. nobody mentions jobs. the unemployment rate is 7.8% today, which is exactly the same as it was in january, 2009, when obama was inaugurated. >> how do you get on the nonmeeting jobs council to begin with? i don't know, in washington a lot of photo ops and people get put on the boards, i mean, these councils and stuff and i don't know what we get out of them. >> i don't think that anybody hoped they would get out of it. it's carefully bipartisan and a number of people from both parties, labor, there was management and they were never going to agree on anything, they didn't have any power to do anything, so, they came up with 60 recommendations to help increase employment across the country, and then they stopped meeting and actually it was kind of embarrassing, a report in politico they had not met for six months, last summer they h